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		<title>Comment on ILL 220: Obese by marina</title>
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		<dc:creator>marina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s  not that there are good jobs and educations for everyone, but it is that every individual has just as much capacity for success as every other one. Yes poor or disabled people are less likely to succeed, but it doesn&#039;t mean that they lack capacity. 

I said at some point that the goal is to work harder or smarter than the guy behind you. It&#039;s true that we do need waitresses, and if a person is happy being a waitress for their whole life, I&#039;ll try not to make a judgment call, but they don&#039;t have to be if they don&#039;t want to be. 

The difference between the TV view and my perception is the difference between saying that the poor are too stupid to do anything right and saying that the poor are people who have not (to this point in their lives) managed to outshine others for a better position. It has to do with competition, and right now they&#039;re behind. It doesn&#039;t have any barring on their intelligence, or even their ability. At any given time there are people who are living in poverty while going to school, or building a skill set that&#039;s going to ensure their success later on. 

The TV makes it seem like poverty is something that happens to dummies, and all the idiots watching these dummies on TV can feel superior to them and think that they don&#039;t have to continue to work hard to try to be better. It creates a false sense of job security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s  not that there are good jobs and educations for everyone, but it is that every individual has just as much capacity for success as every other one. Yes poor or disabled people are less likely to succeed, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that they lack capacity. </p>
<p>I said at some point that the goal is to work harder or smarter than the guy behind you. It&#8217;s true that we do need waitresses, and if a person is happy being a waitress for their whole life, I&#8217;ll try not to make a judgment call, but they don&#8217;t have to be if they don&#8217;t want to be. </p>
<p>The difference between the TV view and my perception is the difference between saying that the poor are too stupid to do anything right and saying that the poor are people who have not (to this point in their lives) managed to outshine others for a better position. It has to do with competition, and right now they&#8217;re behind. It doesn&#8217;t have any barring on their intelligence, or even their ability. At any given time there are people who are living in poverty while going to school, or building a skill set that&#8217;s going to ensure their success later on. </p>
<p>The TV makes it seem like poverty is something that happens to dummies, and all the idiots watching these dummies on TV can feel superior to them and think that they don&#8217;t have to continue to work hard to try to be better. It creates a false sense of job security.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ILL 220: Obese by Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Blame&quot; seems a little harsh, especially if you&#039;re going to take me to task for my word choice. I wasn&#039;t trying to make some sort of arrogant middle-class jackass point about how poor people are lazy and stupid. The only point I was trying to make was that eating healthier is possible, if you&#039;re willing to make the effort. Not every decision is as dire as you make it out to be--do I play with my kids, or do I make bread? I&#039;m not trying to say its always a small amount of effort either. It just seems wrong to point and say &quot;Damn you American society, you&#039;re filling us full of processed food and making us fat!&quot; Surely, societal and economic conditions play a role in this sort of thing. I&#039;m not even as hands-off as Marina, who generally seems to be  of the opinion that everyone out to just survive on their wits alone, but I feel like a lot of Americans, in all walks of life, are developing an odd culture of victim-hood that encourages a refusal to take responsibility for one&#039;s own actions. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to say where one ends and the other begins--how can we determine what is the responsibility of the individual, and what is the responsibility of society and the government. Being poor doesn&#039;t force you to eat shitty processed food, but it does make it much more likely that you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blame&#8221; seems a little harsh, especially if you&#8217;re going to take me to task for my word choice. I wasn&#8217;t trying to make some sort of arrogant middle-class jackass point about how poor people are lazy and stupid. The only point I was trying to make was that eating healthier is possible, if you&#8217;re willing to make the effort. Not every decision is as dire as you make it out to be&#8211;do I play with my kids, or do I make bread? I&#8217;m not trying to say its always a small amount of effort either. It just seems wrong to point and say &#8220;Damn you American society, you&#8217;re filling us full of processed food and making us fat!&#8221; Surely, societal and economic conditions play a role in this sort of thing. I&#8217;m not even as hands-off as Marina, who generally seems to be  of the opinion that everyone out to just survive on their wits alone, but I feel like a lot of Americans, in all walks of life, are developing an odd culture of victim-hood that encourages a refusal to take responsibility for one&#8217;s own actions. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to say where one ends and the other begins&#8211;how can we determine what is the responsibility of the individual, and what is the responsibility of society and the government. Being poor doesn&#8217;t force you to eat shitty processed food, but it does make it much more likely that you will.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ILL 220: Obese by kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Ben: I think &quot;laziness&quot; is kind of a shitty way of putting it when &quot;tired&quot; also sometimes applies. Especially in the case of people who are parents, people who do manual labor, and so on and so on. If someone&#039;s taken their kids to school, then worked on their feet all day--waitressing, working as a cashier, any of the shitty jobs that kill your back and your feet and your brain--then gone to pick up their kids, then come home and try to spend some time with their kids or their spouse...well, I don&#039;t blame them for not wanting to spend another hour looking up a recipe and then baking bread. I agree with Marina--it&#039;s not always a case of &quot;don&#039;t want to&quot;, it&#039;s sometimes a case of &quot;can&#039;t.&quot;

I also don&#039;t blame people whose lives suck for not wanting to eat cheap oatmeal (your suggestion) or barley soup (a suggestion that crops up every time anyone has this discussion--just make a huge pot of bean soup and eat it for every meal!) for every meal every day of the week.

To Marina: The entire nature of our economic system means that not everyone can get an education. Not everyone can get a good job. There are only a certain amount of good jobs to get. Sometimes the five bucks an hour job is the only one there is. Our society is not one in which everyone can succeed, regardless of how hard they work or how educated they are. We need waitresses and janitors and cashiers and gas station attendants and factory workers to, you know, make the world fucking run, and those are not occupations that pay well, but sometimes those are the only jobs available. There are not an endless amount of well-paying jobs that everybody could have if only they got off their lazy asses and went to school.

Re: Wonder Woman, I kind of hate the new backstory, because why the hell would you get rid of her being raised by Amazons in a matriarchy? That&#039;s what makes her so awesome! I can see how her not living up to what you think she should be as a product of that society would be disappointing, but that backstory itself is what so many people find inspiring about her, including you. I agree with you that the new outfit sucks, though--her old outfit is so iconic. Batman and Superman have both gotten costume redesigns over the years, but they&#039;ve never been reduced to just wearing pants and a t-shirt, basically. They got to keep their iconic superhero images, and it pisses me off that WW doesn&#039;t get to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ben: I think &#8220;laziness&#8221; is kind of a shitty way of putting it when &#8220;tired&#8221; also sometimes applies. Especially in the case of people who are parents, people who do manual labor, and so on and so on. If someone&#8217;s taken their kids to school, then worked on their feet all day&#8211;waitressing, working as a cashier, any of the shitty jobs that kill your back and your feet and your brain&#8211;then gone to pick up their kids, then come home and try to spend some time with their kids or their spouse&#8230;well, I don&#8217;t blame them for not wanting to spend another hour looking up a recipe and then baking bread. I agree with Marina&#8211;it&#8217;s not always a case of &#8220;don&#8217;t want to&#8221;, it&#8217;s sometimes a case of &#8220;can&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t blame people whose lives suck for not wanting to eat cheap oatmeal (your suggestion) or barley soup (a suggestion that crops up every time anyone has this discussion&#8211;just make a huge pot of bean soup and eat it for every meal!) for every meal every day of the week.</p>
<p>To Marina: The entire nature of our economic system means that not everyone can get an education. Not everyone can get a good job. There are only a certain amount of good jobs to get. Sometimes the five bucks an hour job is the only one there is. Our society is not one in which everyone can succeed, regardless of how hard they work or how educated they are. We need waitresses and janitors and cashiers and gas station attendants and factory workers to, you know, make the world fucking run, and those are not occupations that pay well, but sometimes those are the only jobs available. There are not an endless amount of well-paying jobs that everybody could have if only they got off their lazy asses and went to school.</p>
<p>Re: Wonder Woman, I kind of hate the new backstory, because why the hell would you get rid of her being raised by Amazons in a matriarchy? That&#8217;s what makes her so awesome! I can see how her not living up to what you think she should be as a product of that society would be disappointing, but that backstory itself is what so many people find inspiring about her, including you. I agree with you that the new outfit sucks, though&#8211;her old outfit is so iconic. Batman and Superman have both gotten costume redesigns over the years, but they&#8217;ve never been reduced to just wearing pants and a t-shirt, basically. They got to keep their iconic superhero images, and it pisses me off that WW doesn&#8217;t get to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ILL 218: Ukulele Practice by Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bright, cheerful, relaxed Marina is a joy to listen to; and you have a nice singing voice as well.</description>
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		<title>Comment on ILL 214: Papers by Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 23:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m completely with you about the AZ issue. I just don&#039;t get how people can look at this and not think prejudice. I can also see where you might see a parallel to Nazi&#039;s as they would storm into neighborhoods and hunt down the jews. I&#039;m just scared that this could become something bigger and use the same kind of technicians in hunting down &quot;the gays.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m completely with you about the AZ issue. I just don&#8217;t get how people can look at this and not think prejudice. I can also see where you might see a parallel to Nazi&#8217;s as they would storm into neighborhoods and hunt down the jews. I&#8217;m just scared that this could become something bigger and use the same kind of technicians in hunting down &#8220;the gays.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on ILL 214: Papers by Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 19:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A show of juxtapositions.

Cunnilingus very very good, racial profiling very very bad.</description>
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<p>Cunnilingus very very good, racial profiling very very bad.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ILL 214: Papers by Matthew @ SBA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew @ SBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 00:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree and totally feel your frustration! How the hell that law in Az passed to even get signed by that racist governor is insane! Regardless of which state, this is the USA! Fuck that! It&#039;s complete bullshit! And every comparison to Hilter and Nazism and the death of MILLIONS of people NEED to be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree and totally feel your frustration! How the hell that law in Az passed to even get signed by that racist governor is insane! Regardless of which state, this is the USA! Fuck that! It&#8217;s complete bullshit! And every comparison to Hilter and Nazism and the death of MILLIONS of people NEED to be made.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ILL 214: Papers by kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to your vagina! (Note: this was about the oral sex note, it&#039;s not actually connected to the rest of the podcast.)

To add to what you were saying about illegal immigrants being afraid of cops, even if you&#039;re a citizen and you&#039;re of color and you witness a crime, you&#039;re *still* not going to want to call the cops because you&#039;re going to end up getting interrogated for an hour about your right to be in this country, just because you were a good fucking Samaritan. I agree with you--this policy, both in Arizona and the check in your neighborhood, isn&#039;t about citizenship. It&#039;s about making people who don&#039;t fit other (racist) people&#039;s idea of &quot;American&quot;, regardless of their citizenship, feel unsafe and unwelcome. So just know, I care. The police force in YOUR country is making you feel unsafe because of your race and where you live, and that is not fucking okay.

Re: the banality of evil and what you&#039;re saying about how shit like this doesn&#039;t happen in America--I think that actually plays into the first part. Because this is America! Things like this don&#039;t happen here! So that deportation must be legal, that imprisonment must be justified, that papers check must only be targeting criminals, etc. etc. etc.

It&#039;s possible that you recorded this a few days ago, but for what it&#039;s worth, the blogosphere *and* journalists are reacting against the Arizona law, Obama has denounced it and the White House is looking for grounds to challenge it, an Arizona sheriff has refused to obey the law and it&#039;s likely that other law enforcement officials will follow. So people are aware and are actively fighting against it there. As for what happened to you, yeah, I had no idea it was happening until you posted about in on Facebook, and I&#039;m sure a lot of other people didn&#039;t, either. See again the above paragraph, &quot;shit like that doesn&#039;t happen here and so this must be a one time thing/totally justified/etc.&quot; which I&#039;m sure is why people reacted the way they did in your comments. I immediately connected it to the Arizona law, though, and with your additional details about your neighborhood being primarily Mexican, it absolutely sounds like law enforcement taking advantage of racial profiling being legalized in other states to do some over here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to your vagina! (Note: this was about the oral sex note, it&#8217;s not actually connected to the rest of the podcast.)</p>
<p>To add to what you were saying about illegal immigrants being afraid of cops, even if you&#8217;re a citizen and you&#8217;re of color and you witness a crime, you&#8217;re *still* not going to want to call the cops because you&#8217;re going to end up getting interrogated for an hour about your right to be in this country, just because you were a good fucking Samaritan. I agree with you&#8211;this policy, both in Arizona and the check in your neighborhood, isn&#8217;t about citizenship. It&#8217;s about making people who don&#8217;t fit other (racist) people&#8217;s idea of &#8220;American&#8221;, regardless of their citizenship, feel unsafe and unwelcome. So just know, I care. The police force in YOUR country is making you feel unsafe because of your race and where you live, and that is not fucking okay.</p>
<p>Re: the banality of evil and what you&#8217;re saying about how shit like this doesn&#8217;t happen in America&#8211;I think that actually plays into the first part. Because this is America! Things like this don&#8217;t happen here! So that deportation must be legal, that imprisonment must be justified, that papers check must only be targeting criminals, etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that you recorded this a few days ago, but for what it&#8217;s worth, the blogosphere *and* journalists are reacting against the Arizona law, Obama has denounced it and the White House is looking for grounds to challenge it, an Arizona sheriff has refused to obey the law and it&#8217;s likely that other law enforcement officials will follow. So people are aware and are actively fighting against it there. As for what happened to you, yeah, I had no idea it was happening until you posted about in on Facebook, and I&#8217;m sure a lot of other people didn&#8217;t, either. See again the above paragraph, &#8220;shit like that doesn&#8217;t happen here and so this must be a one time thing/totally justified/etc.&#8221; which I&#8217;m sure is why people reacted the way they did in your comments. I immediately connected it to the Arizona law, though, and with your additional details about your neighborhood being primarily Mexican, it absolutely sounds like law enforcement taking advantage of racial profiling being legalized in other states to do some over here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 89: Cunnilingus by Venice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 02:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aww man, this one doesn&#039;t work anymore. I really wanted to listen to it :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aww man, this one doesn&#8217;t work anymore. I really wanted to listen to it :(</p>
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		<title>Comment on 89: Cunnilingus by Jax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 22:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marina!! fix this please, I no longer have this episode, and would like to download it!</description>
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